Memsahib’s Diary: Religious conversion tearing Arunachal’s tribes apart


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Memsahib's Diary: Religious conversion tearing Arunachal's tribes apartI can’t honestly say that I had given a lot of thought to the subject of religious conversions in India until I went to Arunachal Pradesh last week.

There has always seemed to be so much else in India that was more deserving of thought and comment – education, violence against women, poverty alleviation – that whether or not people should convert wasn’t anything I had deeply pondered. And that is an intellectual lacuna entirely of my own making, I freely admit.

I guess I would have said – pre my Arunachal trip – that religion is a personal issue and as such, the decision to convert or not therefore also remains personal.

I am a Christian, and a product of a country where everyone is allowed to practice his or her religion freely. England has churches and temples and synagogues and mosques and gurdwaras, and so with that as my cultural DNA, I suppose I would have said (pre-Arunachal), “Yes, if someone wishes to convert to another religion, why not?”

How 10 days can change one’s views!

The people we met in Arunachal were from two tribes, the Apa Tanis and the Nishi, and I was surprised at how often the subject of religion arose in general conversation. The tone of these discussions was always restrained and moderate, but there does seem to be a real concern at the activities of Christian missionaries working in this still relatively remote part of India.

We met some delightful, highly educated Christian Arunachalis, although most people with whom we interacted follow the indigenous religion called Donyi Polo, in which the sun and moon are worshipped as supreme beings.

Not to oversimplify things, but it would seem that conversion out of the traditional faith worries Arunachalis since it also impacts the very fabric of their tribal system and structure. And this tight-knit structure is something that binds these people together in the face of all the other “outside” influences that increasingly affect their lifestyle. TV, mobiles, the internet, Bollywood movies, English, Hindi – even the presence of outsiders such as this memsahib – all of these have an effect on a centuries old, very traditional social structure.

That these bonds are still so strong is admirable. Everyone is connected to their village, to their clan, to their tribe, and this web of closely-knit allegiances is what makes the Nishis and the Apa Tanis function so well. They are close, supportive and cohesive, in a way that many city dwellers might well envy. They really and truly do appear to help and care for their own, they take an active pride in the successes and achievements of their own — and it is through age-old rituals and ceremonies that these bonds are constantly re-enforced and reiterated.

It is the possible dissonance between these traditional beliefs and ceremonies, and Christianity that worries Arunachalis? We all know how life seems to be changing so rapidly these days, and there isn’t one of us who doesn’t marvel at how we managed in a pre-Google or pre-email world. Imagine the repercussions, therefore, on a society that was still ‘primitive’ a mere 65 years ago. To have moved from a centuries-old, unchanged lifestyle to a Facebooking, SMSing society in such a short space of time, and still stay cohesive, is a tribute to the strength of the ties binding the tribes to one another.

Prior to this trip, had I been asked, I would probably have trotted out a comment that missionaries provide good schooling, which might have served as a raison d’etre. In Arunachal, where (we were told) all children attend school, such an argument doesn’t hold water, since the villages all have Government schools.

So, where does one draw a line between preserving the traditional and permitting freedom of choice? What comes first, social cohesion or the right of an individual to worship as they please?

Ten days is obviously too little time to claim to have understood anything at all profound about a society, and so I can offer no great revelations. But I found the degree of concern about religion, and the worries about the presence of missionaries, to be intriguing. Coupled with the obvious success in keeping the younger generation in tune with, and proud, of their tribal heritage and culture, the worries about missionary activity took on an added dimension.


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  • A

    The author has not specified whether she is an Anglican, a somewhat softer type of Christianity and one that does not convert aggressively like the cults of Catholicism and Baptist churches. In fact, the least number of so-called “witches” were burnt in England in the name of Christianity. Numbers are relative though, and the bodycount is estimated to be around 25,000 in England. Whereas in the South of France, about half a million Cathars were killed. The link below has the history as well as the present activities of various cults of Christianity.

    http://freetruth.50webs.org/

    • Rajesh

      biggest threat to hindus is and has been christian conversions

  • http://twitter.com/u_g_prashanth Prashanth

    I wonder what was the situation and events in the ground that got memsahib to start thinking about christian conversion. I did not get what started the process of thinking about christian culture vs indigenous culture in thhe first place

  • Murthy

    Mid-East religions, Islam and Christianity, in particular, tend to undermine older cultures through their respective dogma. Somehow they find theological objections to older cultures and ways of life of the people they convert.

    Hinduism, on the other hand, incorporates the essentials of different cultures, rather than undermine them or fight them out of existence.

    What the author has observed in Arunachal, unfortunately, is the same as the predicament of many many communities in Assam, Tripura, Meghalaya and, indeed, in the tribal or Adi Vasi belts of Bihar and Odisha.

    The author should be commended for being frank and fair in her observation and assessment.

    Few national leaders have raised any concern at all over the conflicts that active conversion efforts wrought on the Indian national ethos.

  • http://twitter.com/tweetamit07 amit choudhury

    these r tearing our INDIA apart…..we r still a silent sppectator!

  • Bharati

    “missionaries provide good schooling” – your columnist may find educative “The Beautiful Tree” by Dharampal. It describes in detail the indigenous village-school system, and why and how the missionary-colonials destroyed it.

  • Rajalakshmi

    Missionaries & “good” schooling ??

    First they ridicule us Hindus as “pagans”.

    After sedulously stealing everything from us now have Jesus Christ sitting in padmasan with rudraksha mala in one hand , a kamandalu in the other & are audacious enough to claim Yajur Veda is yesu veda. And one yesu bhagavatham also.

    Lousy thieves.

  • Rajalakshmi

    In almost all movies churned out by bolly & kollywood you would invariably find orphans being “COMPASSIONATELY” adopted ONLY by some christians in churches. With the same oinGGG organ music in the background. With finger pointing upwards lecturing on father holy ghost yada yada.

    Painful to say the least.

  • Rajalakshmi

    Swami Dayananda of Arsha Vidya Gurukulam has dwelt at length on the destructive toxic consequences of “conversions” by christian missionaries.
    Without mincing words Swamiji says ” Conversion is VIOLENCE “.

    Read what Swami Vivekananda says about missionaries.
    Christopher Hitchens.
    Alfred Hitchcock.

  • Rajalakshmi

    Almost all who attend schools run by christian missionaries & convents develop fluency in English no doubt but grow up feeling ASHAMED of the religion & culture they are born in.

    This is ENGENDERED in them by the converted christians.

    Indian establishment under congress overtly & covertly promotes these. Italian catholic Sonia underestimates GOD.

    As she has the temerity to walk into Hindus’ Thirupathi Temple & various other Holy Hindu Temples & Siddhar Peethams donning a saree & sticking some bindi.

  • Rajalakshmi

    The convent educated Indians suffer from another mysterious affliction.
    Let me give an example.

    There is one Sreedhar( or Sridharan?) from Kerala an engineer praised very much for Delhi’s metro train project.

    It so happens he has also gone through Bhagavad Geetha , Yoga Vasishtam etc.
    He has the gall to say ” these are not HINDU….no need to call them HINDU Spiritual Texts….all universal for mankind” yada yada.

    The convent educated Indian ALONE would talk with such egregious peremptoriness.

    Nowhere does Lord Krishna ask for this alleged engineer sreedhar’s opinions.

  • http://twitter.com/IntegralUnity ∫ubra

    Christine: Have you read ‘Breaking India’? It’s available on Kindle as well. It’s a scholarly work gives you all the facts and perspective you’ll need and is based on more than 20 yrs of fact-finding research.

  • A

    Rajalakshmi said -

    “After sedulously stealing everything from us now have Jesus Christ sitting in padmasan with rudraksha mala in one hand , a kamandalu in the other & are audacious enough to claim Yajur Veda is yesu veda. And one yesu bhagavatham also.
    Lousy thieves.”

    The cult of christianity was all about robbing other cultures of their gods and later on dumping them for the dead Jew. Jesus himself is supposed to be the “messiah” of the Jews, only thing is, the Jews never accepted him. This is why there was widespread anti-semitism in Europe. There are also a lot of Pagan gods and goddesses stolen by Catholicism, the original cult of christianity. Most of the Catholic churches in Europe are built on the sites of ancient Pagan temples.

    It’s amazing to think that such a vile cult was able to send Europe into a 1000 year Dark Age, and continues to get away with it’s crimes against Humanity even in modern times.

    • Rajalakshmi

      @A,

      You are right. But Europe have long woken up & seen through the duplicity of churchianity. Interestingly it is Swami Abhedananda ( another Disciple of Sri.Ramakrishna Pramahamsar who coined the word “churchianity”).

      No wonder Vatican’s Pope gave the audacious order to “plant the cross in Asia”.

  • M Patel

    Christianity (or Islam) has a strong social and political dimensions. Hence, Conversion causes massive upheaval. The havoc, in Africa, is brilliantly captured in ‘Things Fall Apart’ a novel by Nigerian author Chinua Achebe. India’s north-west (i.e. Pakistan) fall apart several hundred years ago. Now, India’s North-East is also falling apart. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism#Tripura_and_Assam

    Even Jesus understood that conversion will cause discord. He said “For I am come to set a man at variance against the father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.”. When a disciple asked for a leave to bury his dead father, Jesus replied “Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.”

  • Hindugirl

    The funny thing is that conversion is pressed by organizations such as the Scandinavian Church, societies where the concept of family hardly exists and where cohabitation enjoys the status that marriage used to enjoy in civilized societies….They can’t get their own people to follow the bible, so they have to push the doctrines on the poor tribals of India….Why not teach the doctrines to their own people and youth, the reason is lack of success….And these poor tribals are taught to hate their own land and traditions and instead follow an alien god of the desert who says I am alone the truth and all other religious teachers false. . Look at the Dharmic traditions on the other hand. They amalgamate the tribal traditions and make leeway for the particularities of a people’s geography and traditions, they do not say one way is the only way. Many Hindus are prepared to accept Jesus as having some good things to teach, but not the ONLY religious teacher, Christian fanatics teach Hindus engage in idolatory and only their god is the true god, similar to Islam….What happens to Christians when they learn about other cultures and study science? They become atheists or follow Buddhism, but a Buddhist or Hindu need never convert to another religion, as his religion was adopted as a culture in its totality not by artificial conversion.

  • Hindugirl

    Also conversions are of concern because the Dharmic traditions are non proselytizing and do not teach hatred towards other religions, everywhere Muslims and Chrsitians engage in too much conversion, they upset the local balance for their religions teach that they alone are the truth, and have no respect for other religions and have hatred towards the local pre Christian or Pre Islamic traditions, and the result is conflict with the local traditions where they gain the upper hand…The desert religions gifted religious conflict to the world, before that people historically fought for territory and other things, but never for religion…And the funny thing is that the desert religions do not even agree with each other, so why should they be allowed to cause disharmony where the Dharmic traditions were co existing pea e fully before the desert religions ever came into being in the deserts of the Middle East?

  • A

    @Hindugirl – Christianity is bigotry. The message of Jesus (if he ever existed) is that I am the only way, and there is no other. Everything else is false, and this meant the murder of millions starting in Europe, and then the Americas and Asia and Australia.

    Also, the two Abrahamic cults are not in it for nothing – they get territory, and they get sheep (in the case of the cult of christianity. Can you imagine what they have looted from the Americas, both North and South, as well as Asia ?) Christians have to pay a tithe, about 10% of their income to the church, and this is what keeps the holy fathers and the holy sisters in bread and wine. Money is what the churches are after, and this is why the aggressive conversion of the most vulnerable people – tribals, people living off the forests and in nature, unconnected to the modern world.

  • Hindugirl

    The Passion of the Greeks: Christianity and the rape of the Hellenes by Evaggelos Valliantos is an incredible book, all the more so as it is written by a Greekmwho loves his heritage and culture. You would think that the Greeks all converted unlike Hindus would have no memory of such things, but this book is an amazing Greek perspective on how Greek culture was destroyed…..Read for youself for the ancient Greeks were very similar to ancient Hindus…..

  • Hindugirl

    I think no one has anything against pious Christians engaging in their faith and doing some social works. However, if people are taught to deny their own heritage and that Christianity is the only religion, then it is a loss for tribal peoples for that is spreading intolerance. One has to ask whether the essence of Christianity allows respect for say Hinduism and Buddhism. Is there reciprocity in terms of respect? Many Hindus will pray to Jesus as a Saint among others, but will the Christian ever acknowledge that Hindus have religious teachers who have something to teach? I would think no according to their official books….. Look by contrast at the various forms of Hinduism and Buddhism, a lot of native characteristics are allowed to survive within the religion, Japanese and Tibetan Buddhism are instances of how Dharmic traditions do not bury but give expression to various local traditions within their frameworks, so a people is not deracinated by the religion….Look by contrast at the Islamic and Christian peoples, they hardly retain their preIslamic and preChristian heritage as a living tradition…

  • A

    The Supreme Council of Ethnic Hellenes also has info on the destruction wrecked on Greeks by christians -

    http://www.ysee.gr/index-eng.php?type=english&f=lovestories

  • hornbill

    I belong to Apatani Community and I am sad to say that the author has failed to figure out all facts in her article (definitely, 10 days are not enough to understand the complexities of religious politics in Arunachal). The truth is, Hindu missionaries are much more aggressively working to convert us (free spirit worshipers). The author is completely wrong when it comes to DONYI POLO religion! It is not at all indigenous, but a recent brain child of some Hindu workers. Apatanis are free spirit worshippers. Much closer to Shamanism than having a temple such as Donyi Polo tries to propagate.
    Christian Missionaries are there no doubt but, and they are trying to integrate with the local indigenous culture. Whereas, Hindus are actually corrupting our existing indigenous culture by introducing the concept of temple and bringing in DONYI (Sun) and POLO (Moon) as the central figure. When actually these two entities are just two entities in the group of hundreds of good spirits that we summon when in need.
    Hindus are corrupting and mutating the indigenous culture.

    • Christine

      Dear Hornbill.
      Thank you so much for your comment, and I am fascinated by your helpful remarks. Do you have a web link or a book reference that you can share, so that I can research more ? Clearly I need to return to your gorgeous part of India and learn more ! Really and truly, thank you.

  • A

    Niticentral got it’s first christian troll posing as an Arunachali.

  • Hindugirl

    Hi Hornbill,
    How are Hindus corrupting culture and how are missionaries integrating with local culture? How does Shamanism fit into the context of the Bible? The Tibetans were also shamans once, but they became Buddhists. The kind of Buddhism they follow has incorporated a lot of their native shamanic practices, look at Vajrayana Buddhism…Please give examples to back your claims….
    Evidently groups that do not have script and organized religions will eventually adjust to modernity, the question is how and in what manner….

  • Hindugirl

    A,
    I am aware that Christianity brought about the dark ages in Europe initially and the Greeks having had their philosophical schools destroyed, became a mediocre nation thereafter…
    I would like to better understand the conditions which allowed Christianity to grow. Initially it was popular with the poor, women, the orphaned and so on and not amongmthe aristocracy….Now clearly it fulfilled a need among such people….What were those needs and why were those not addressed by the existing religious frameworks is a question to ponder to gain a full understanding….The Indic civilization produced Buddhism and religions sich as Jainism to address those whom Hinduism did not amalgamate, but Buddhism and Jainsim were Dharmic arms, not at odds with Hinduism, but merely strengthened Dharma by bringing more people within the Dharmic fold. Why did Europe have something like Christianity, which destroyed initially the grandeur of antiquity, but which eventually had to adapt a great deal of the pagan culture and philosophy to survive? Understanding the conditions which allowed a monolithic way of thinking to prevail which does not allow religious differences might provide some insight as to how the Dharmic religions can deal with monolithic religious outlooks which do not admit in their official teachings different grades of religious understanding…..Needless to say, monothilic traditions clash and this is the case with the three religions springing from the Middle East…..

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003485192490 Nobin Tage

    As a person hailing from Arunachal Pradesh, I thank the author for this write-up. The fact that conversion to Christianity and attempts by Hindus to influence the indigenous faith is wreaking havoc is crystal clear, but the topic is avoided by everybody. At the most they are discussed in hussed tones (as pointed out by the author) for fear of offending the vociferous Christian converts in the state.
    From the tone of the comments by Hornbill, he appears to be a Christian convert himself – hence his defensive statement. His statement that Donyi Polo is not a religion is part of Christian bigotry. Even if they do not consider it a religion, they should refrain from eroding the culture and traditions of the Apatanis and Nyishis which has been practiced from time immemorial.

  • Rubu Opo

    The author has penned what she has thought in her short visit to Apatani & Nishi areas (Arunachal Pradesh)… comments by other than mentioned tribes are uncalled for. How much do those people knew about the tradition & Culture about the mentioned tribe? Whether they really do know that a tribe called Apatani/ Nishi or Arunachal Pradesh exist at all.. LOL

  • Rubu Opo

    … & names called A, Hornbill, Hindugiri…ROFL.

  • A

    The cult of Catholicism has historically used a multi-pronged approach to destroy it’s target. For example in the case of Ancient Rome, they used to convert the financially weak. They also converted some Barbarians, and there were disputes in the Roman empire. A small riot here, another there. This was the start of the Fall of Rome.

    What’s common between Ancient Rome and India is – they are both Civilizations, India being the oldest and the only continuous one. Civilization brings with it not just scientific, but social and intellectual progress. Tolerance is a virtue, but it became a vice as it led to the Fall of Rome. The Romans were not harsh on the troublemaking christians as they thought that they will eventually assimilate into the melting pot of Greco-Roman Civilization. No one in their right minds could have imagined that something like catholicism will actually stop scientific progress and lead to the mass murder of millions in Europe, and this is why Rome fell.

    In christian Europe, the victors wrote their own history, propaganda was widespread about christians being thrown to the lions, whereas such a thing never happened. A lot of the christian saints are actually Pagan gods and, in some cases, non-christian people. Saint Catherine of Alexandria is actually Hypatia of Alexandria, a famous philosopher and mathematician who resisted the early christians and was murdered by bishop and later pope of Alexandria, Cyril.

    Once christianity had Europe in it’s grip, language was modified substantially. Any good deed became a “christian” deed. Names became “christian” names, and “Pagan” and “Heathen” became insults of the first degree. Christianity believes in absolute control.

    One can see the same multi-pronged approach towards India – the financially weak tribals, and those in the cities are being targeted, and in these modern times, mass media is being controlled. There are publications that write propaganda about Hinduism and India, and there are actually news anchors that are christian and yet bear Hindu names. Needless to say, they are anti-India.

  • Rubu Opo

    Please dont confuse us. Compelling is never right but spontenous may be…

  • Rubu Opo

    Why dont u people leave us… without imposing.

  • Confused

    Rubu Opo, I’m sorry but would you make yourself clearer? Who’s the “us”, and who’s “imposing” and “compelling”? This is a discussion about issues raised by Christine Pemberton. Views are being expressed. Are you saying that such articles should not be published, or such issues should not be raised, or should not be discussed, or all of these?

  • Talo

    Firstly,my gratitude to christine ma’m for bringing forth this issue.
    Its really sad to see people are easily misled by outsiders and compel’em to follow their religion as per their wish.In doing so,they(outsiders) never know what they’re snatching from the poor ignorant people.The converts are loosing their traditions, customs i.e their identity by which they’re known to outsiders earlier.
    And off course,christians are amongs those groups who influence the choice of religion in some interior parts of North East and India as a whole.

  • Rubu Opo

    I cannot, to the one whose name itself is “Confused”.

  • Rubu Opo

    Why Live & let live is wrong???

  • Confused

    @Rubu Opo
    Your reply is completely opaque and in no way helps this discussion. Sure, “live and let live” – so please let this discussion “live” and, if you do not wish to follow it, no one is compelling you to.

  • Talo

    @Confused,I second you.

  • A

    Info on a famous missionary terrorist -

    http://motherteresawasafraud.blogspot.in/

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1285465890 Taku Tara

    Thanks to Christine mam for this article.I have not much to say but would like to convey to all(including my own native people) that lets learn/gain knowledge which would be good for us and our future but NEVER let them impose us what they want……
    Our First prime minister has rightly said that:…..
    “I am alarmed when I see – not only in this country but in other great countries too – how anxious people are to shape others according to their own image or likeness, and to impose on them their particular way to living. We are welcome to our way of living, but why impose it on others? This applies equally to national and international fields. If fact, there would be more peace in the world if people were to desist from imposing their way of living on other people and countries.
    I am not at all sure which is the better way of living, the tribal or
    own. In some respects I am quite certain theirs is better. Therefore, it is grossly presumptuous on our part to approach them with an air of
    superiority, to tell them how to behave or what to do and what not to
    do. There is no point in trying to make of them a second-rate copy of
    ourselves.
    — JAWAHARLAL NEHRU ”
    By the way, taking a Ritually sacrificed BEEF/PORK does not make one a lesser human being than others. LIVE & LET LIVE.

  • seethrough

    It’s just a politically motivated saffron rhetoric that has been doing rounds for quite a while now.
    Conversion has been integral to all faith systems such as Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism, Zoroastrinism, Islam. It’s common for people economic and political systems too. The whole life is about conversion/transformation/evolution of individual beings from that you were yesterday to the potential individual that you are. It’s only crude minds blinded by political motives that think and act against conversion, which comes with nature and which is how human beings are designed to be. One who doesn’t change (the conservative) is the greatest enemy to human progress.

    Having said that, the Vedic Aryans that drove the original natives of India (largely Dravidians)into interiors of the land. They introduced the caste system into India (originally a version of racism) took the cream of the land and natural resources into their hands. The Aryan war mongers on one hand kept borrowing religious ideas of native tribes where and when suited and on the other expected the docile, peace loving natives to worship their leaders and heroes as gods incarnate. The vedic Aryans were the brought about a wave of their style of religious conversion centuries ago. The descendants of Aryan tribes that make the large part of casteist Hindus of today won’t admit it today. They have been indoctrinating gullible minds with a version of history of their own creation that negates all historic incidents.

    In fact, the Vedic Aryan religion which later on began to be described Hinduism due to linguistic and political reasons rather than religious, began to implode significantly when Buddhism and Jainism questioned some of the basic tenets, customs and practices that Vedic Aryan tribes instituted. The tribes and individuals that benefited the most from Vedic Aryan religious system/s had always tried to suppress and annihilate opposition. They could thus check the growth of Buddhism in India to a great extent. They couldn’t do much against the onslaught of the barbaric Islamic invasion and growth in India for centuries.

    Later when Europeans began to be treated a common enemy, some sections from both sides made a marriage of convenience to fight the so-called common enemy.

    In fact, a large section of conservatives on both sides resisted highly tempting European ways and lifestyle. On one side, large sections of them wanted to embrace the Western culture and civilization for obvious reasons. But at the same time their tribal instincts and ethno-centric mindset drove a section of people to oppose and resist everything western, including their religion.

    Interestingly, it’s a well-known fact that none of the multitude of tribes in India, including the mongoloid tribes of what is today called North-east were never part of the Hindu religious fold. It’s only when the politically motivated post-independent Hindu communal forces began to get fiercely politically ambitious that they began to stamp vast sections of tribes and so-called castes of India as part of their religious fold. It’s when Christian missions, due to their faith in humanity as one family, began to liberate these disparate sections of people through liberal education and social development activities that the communal forces in India suddenly started wooing them.

    Their anti-christian propaganda is a product of two-pronged strategy. On one side they want to arrest the evolution of tribals into civilized people that live with the same dignity and freedom that any human being, anywhere on the planet gets to live. On the other side the anti-christian communal forces wants to add to their people-strength by converting tribals that were traditionally fighting each other in the region.

    There’s a whole lot more that I wish I could share here. I am sorry, the author hasn’t really done much of a homework before putting together an impulsive piece in public domain.

    • Manta

      Funnily if there was so much faith why convert people why not just help them develop without the aegis of another god! And it is an insult to my tribal brothers and sisters when someone says that they were not civilized before being converted. This just reels of bigotry

  • Hindugirl

    @see through
    Just read the Passion of the Greeks the rape of the Hellenes, an account of how Christians destroyed Greece and turned it into a cemetery. The author Evaggelos Valliantos is a native Greek himself and challenges the Christian interpretation of Greek civilization and religion, how can you denigrate Greek Gods and religion as paganism yet copy what is beautiful from Greece asks the author. The author shows how Christianity was the cause of the decay of Greece historically and how the clergy kept Greeks under Turkish rule. A passionate book dealing with the Christian cult’s crimes in Greece. If you love Greek civilization and it has inspired you and wonder why Greeks have been dumbed down today from being the smartest in Europe and the cradle of civilization in Europe read this book!
    After reading this book any sane and intelligent person should worry about what conversion would do to people’s IQ’s considering how Greeks virtually once the smartest folk in Europe got dumbed down.
    Hinduism incorporates several schools of philosophies, Jainism, Buddhism and Sikhism do not conflict with the essential Dharmic worldview, which is why the four are sister religions. As opposed to desert cults which each have claims to exclusivity and cannot even get along with themselves. So don’t use the lens of desert cults to look at dharmic religions which are knowledge based systems and not faith based cults!
    India as a Dharmic majority religion should get concerned when missionaries who can’t get kids to attend their own Church in Western Europe try to wheedle tribals far away in other peoples’ lands, no one takes Church seriously in the West so now the third world is ripe for their agenda is it not? By the way, the you might ask the Pope to consider the Dharmic religions as valid religions, the trouble might be right there and not with the native religions of India which have no problems recognizing each other as valid forms of religions. But the official Catholic Church is yet to recognize Dharmic religions as valid. So how do you debate with people who do not even consider your religion as valid? There can be no debate in this regard….First get your Pope to recognize the validity of the dharmic religions then we might have a proper debate. People are not dumb anymore and missionaries can’t resort to the same lies they resorted historically to fool gullible folk!




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